How could the Government get it SO wrong, so often ?

Iraq is a disaster - with virtual Civil War (exactly as the anti-war movement had predicted). The British troops have left (after being largely confined to Basra airport for the last 2 years anyway).

Afghanistan, again, looks like crumbling, and everyone knows that evenutally we will "run like hell" !

The so-called Presidential elections (which, incredibly we support !!) are to prop-up as failed "leader" who has never had any authority beyond his own car park. Most of his cabinet have already been assassinated.

This "President" has recent signed-in (as law) a new Bill which allows people to starve their wives to death if they refuse sex. Why are we supporting such barbaric people ?

This ridiculous story about "it preventing UK terrorism" is a farce. The only people to bomb the UK (July 7th) were ALL BRITISH and took the action they did BECAUSE of UK actions in their fathers' homelands.

Our continued pressence fuels the likelihood of further attacks - not prevents it.

Any thoughts, anyone .... ?

The leaders of the coalition must talk with the Taliban or its never going to end. Look how long it took for "us" to talk with the IRA. The so called "war on terror" in Afghanistan does not bode well with me.

I will give you the Conspiracy Theory explanation :

1. They want to crash the economy. Hence they have done everything to put ordinary people out of work and given the money to the "banksters" who just keep paying it out to themselves as bonuses !

2. They want an increase in tension and a permanent war to frighten and stir up the people - but to prove the TERROR threat.

By doing this their ( NWO ) aim is to wear us all down. We have been at WAR now since 2002. SEVEN YEARS - that is longer than World War 1 and 2. Soon it will be longer than both put together !!!!

We need to put pressure on our MPs and local media for an end to these wars.

Iran is next - they have had a plan to attack this country for ages. But because we all know that it is less likely. But I think we are coming into a very dangerous time.

Good post - and you are totally right.

Last month's recovery in retail sales was short lived - yet more lies. Today they rise very little. The stock market is propped up by Quantitive Easing money going into Pharm and Energy Shares......because no one else has any money.

The whole economic and war situation is a big lie. We can all see that now.

We are living in a MAD WORLD and it has been because of 9.11. We were all SHOCK AND AWED into submission and fear by that event ( admit it - I was ) and now we are just waking up to see that the USA and UK have changed the World we used to know. It MUST have been an inside job. No evidence since has been presented to show how such a sophisticated attack could happen - and how no resistance by the USAF happened when thee planes were hijacked. It seems crazy that it ever happened. The TOWERS should never have come down so fast - it is impossible. They were ALL demolished. They came down on their footprint as in controlled demolition. Or as in Independance Day the movie.

I dont care about the 9.11 truth movement - they are right but it is a waste of effort. We need to deal with NOW - the past is over. We need to start making our voices heard now - or things will get even worse.

PS DONT TAKE THE VACCINE - the second or third shots will potentially kill you.

Anyone else noticed that most of these countries "under attack" border or are very close to the terror state of Israel?

I wonder who is pulling whose strings here?

if the USSR couldn't do it no-one can.

It's all about money-selling weapons, stealing gas and oil. Always has been, always will be.

Well, you've had the loony explanation, here's {I think} a more plausible one.
They're incomptent. It really is that simple.
It doesn't take being part of some reptillian agenda to repeatedly lose peoples' personal data.
It simply requires a breathtaking level of incompetence coupled with an equally breathtaking level of carelessness.
It doesn't take subservience to a Satanist US Secretary Of State {I can't believe he said that} to allow our once-admired police forces to become so completely detached from the people they allegedly serve that they have become the only law that actually matters on the ground.
It just takes a breathtaking level of incompetence coupled with an equally breathtaking level of arrogance.
It doesn't take an economic arrangement dictated by the Bilderberg Group to make a total mess of fiscal policy here.
It simply needs a breathtaking level of incompetence coupled with one egomaniac's vision of himself as a saviour of the world.
And it doesn't need some global conspiracy by the Rothschilds, Rockefellers and Bushes to bog us down in
illegal wars and occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan.
All that is required is for our erstwhile Prime Minister to be prepared to lie his arse off in Parliament in order to ally himself to and align himself with a US government the chief players of which had some pretty lucrative looking business interests in those benighted lands. If Gordon Brown had reservations about either adventure he certainly didn't give them voice, which makes him either complicit or stupid... the two words which, I think, sum up this government. Bankrupt of the noble principles which were its progenitor, this labour government {and the diminutive there is deliberate} looks more like a cheap prostitute than the grand old lady it should be. That the heirs of Bevin, Hardy and Attlee should have come to this pass is a sad reflection on the times we live in. They say, after all, that we follow America in all things. That being accepted, we should, perhaps, not be surprised to find our governments of whatever political hue simply chasing the buck. Or should that, in the light of recent events, be passing it?
You don't need to be a cynic like me, or a certified fruit bat like BR to recognise that there's something terribly wrong. Maybe it's beyond fixing. But that's not the point. The real point is that this lot have proved beyond all reasonable doubt {and many more times than once} that they are simply incapable of any principled action beyond the press leak or the sound bite. Useless bastards, one and all. And that's the problem. Not some New World Order. Brown, Milliband, Balls and Harman are all way too stupid to be working to a coherent plan....

I totally agree with Angel's post above.

Dialogue has to be the answer, as it was in Northern Ireland.

If it was about bringing peace and defending the world we'd have invaded a load of countries for that reason...North Korea,Iran,Russia,China....but hey...they'd fight back.

I was enjoying that post Locked Out - very much - until the last sentence.

Brown is a clever bloke - and possibly some of the others are as well. To write them off as stupid is just not true.

Lets wait and see where this all goes. It is about money but is also about power. History shows us that there are power struggles and money ultimately is the weapon of choice - more so than even weapons. In World War 2 Hitler ran out of money and support and could not service his forces. The desire was still there though.

The recovery is being "called" loudly in a PR campaign on both sides of the Atlantic this week. But it is ringing hollow with all the other announcements which are outshouting its effect.

If this is the "double dip" recession then we are about to take a bigger crash than the first last year. So hold on to your hats !!!

Angel wrote:
The leaders of the coalition must talk with the Taliban or its never going to end. Look how long it took for "us" to talk with the IRA. The so called "war on terror" in Afghanistan does not bode well with me.

Agree, Angel.

I've never been able to support anyone who invades another's country (on whatever pretext) and will naturally support the locals in fighting for liberation.

History does not bode well for those supporting the "coalition" (on one !)

Apart from the IRA, almost ever other s0-called "terrorist" organisation including the ANC, Vietcong, Sandinistas etc etc have all won eventually.

Can anyone imagine that Nelson Mandela was once branded a terrorist?