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TOPIC: Al Megrahi controvery
#60526
In The Know

Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 9 Months ago  
ITK suspects there is more to this than has (so far) been admiited ... and that his release WAS part of a trade deal.

So much for principles .... ?
 
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#60534
Angel

Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 9 Months ago  
He was released on compassionate grounds. As a Christian nation I am proud that it took a Scottish Government to provide forgiveness for this man and let him go free. The fact that he is still alive upsets most in my view. If he were dead it would have been a different story. What kind of people are we turning into?
 
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#60547
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Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 9 Months ago  
Angel wrote:
He was released on compassionate grounds. As a Christian nation I am proud that it took a Scottish Government to provide forgiveness for this man and let him go free. The fact that he is still alive upsets most in my view. If he were dead it would have been a different story. What kind of people are we turning into?

I agree with your sentiment, Angel ... but it is not as simple as this.

There was a prisoner-exchange plan mooted, but the British Government knew that may mean comebacks, so "compassionate grounds" were used, and then "blame" shifted to the Scottish Government.

B-Liar was in Libya only last week. I smell money, greed and power !

See this one run ............
 
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#60550
Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 9 Months ago  
Angel wrote:
What kind of people are we turning into?
Americans, it would appear.
I thoroughly endorse your views, Angel. That he's still alive long after many people {who wanted him dead long ago anyway} "expected" is not the point. "Compassionate Grounds" means just that. It's a judgment call made at the time. There can {as Alec Salmond commented in a recent R4 interview} be no question of "with hindsight" attached to it. And it should never be conditional on the prisoner released having at least the decency to die promptly as per the terms of his release. I commented at the time of his release that it was disturbing to hear the voices of the vengeful screaming "no mercy". We have, it seems grown even less civilised even in that short time.
 
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#60555
Plissken

Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 9 Months ago  
There's a strong possibility that Al Megrahi is a CIA patsy.
 
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#60574
veritas

Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 9 Months ago  
 
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#60629
In The Know

Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 9 Months ago  
Angel

I see that the Scottish Justice Secretary and Slimy Jack are both not keen at all to be quizzed on this by the Senators in Washington !

I wonder why ...... ?

From BBC News -

Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill has defended his decision not to attend a US Senate hearing on the release of the Lockerbie bomber.

He said he was "accountable to Scotland" and had "no information to provide" on any BP oil deal.

Former UK Justice Secretary Jack Straw has also declined an invitation to attend the hearing.

from - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-10739764
 
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#60650
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Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 9 Months ago  
What have they (all) got to hide, Angel ?

B-Liar used to fly off to the US for the opening of an envelope - yet here they are - to a man - not daring to be quizzed over this matter ?

Something smells ....

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A US senator has asked the Scottish government to reconsider its decision not to send officials to a hearing into the release of the Lockerbie bomber.

In a letter, Frank Lautenberg said he was "pleading" with First Minister Alex Salmond to help shed light on claims that BP had influenced the release.

Mr Salmond has declined an invitation to send his justice secretary and a medical expert to Washington.

The UK Foreign Secretary said the release was "wrong and misguided".

William Hague wrote to US senators on Saturday, after former UK Justice Secretary Jack Straw also chose not to attend the Washington hearings

all from - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10748665
 
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#60712
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Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 9 Months ago  
Oh, look !
They've just announced that off-shore drilling will start in Libya -
I wonder who has got the job !!!???!!!

Well, surprise, surprise .... it's BP !

Now isn't that a co-incidence ? (NOT !)
 
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#61020
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Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 9 Months ago  
I still believe that the release of Magrahi was part of a deal-for-oil (and so do the Yankers !), but love the comments by the Scottish Cardinal today -

<< The leader of the Roman Catholic Church in Scotland has attacked the US over the release of the Lockerbie bomber.

Cardinal Keith O'Brien said the Scottish government was right to free Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi last year on compassionate grounds.

US lawmakers want Scots politicians to explain their decision to a committee, but the cardinal said ministers should not go "crawling like lapdogs". >>

from - www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-10905562
 
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#61029
Angel

Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 9 Months ago  
Couldn't agree more with the Cardinal ITK. Why did no one from the Scottish Government attend a hearing on the request of the U.S. senate? Why should they have? Justice was served in the name of Scottish law. End of story. These kind of demands are indicative of a bully who thinks they rule the world.
 
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#61030
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Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 8 Months ago  
Angel wrote:
These kind of demands are indicative of a bully who thinks they rule the world.

Yep ... and also of people can can smell a rat from 3000 miles away !
 
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#61049
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Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 8 Months ago  
Angel wrote:
Why did no one from the Scottish Government attend a hearing on the request of the U.S. senate? Why should they have? Justice was served in the name of Scottish law. End of story.

You seem very blinkered on this story, Angel.

The fact is that prior to Megrahi's release a prisoner exchange scheme was being negotiated (fact !) and the ONLY Libyan prisoner in the UK is Megrahi (so who do you think would benefit from this exchange?)

The USA is on record as saying they didn't like the idea and that a compassionate release would be preferable. He presto ! Megrahi suddenly develops an "illness" and gets a compassionate release.

The UK gov can wipe its hands and says its all down to the Scots - not us !

And the UK gets its oil deal too !
 
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#61115
angel

Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 8 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
Angel wrote:
Why did no one from the Scottish Government attend a hearing on the request of the U.S. senate? Why should they have? Justice was served in the name of Scottish law. End of story.

You seem very blinkered on this story, Angel.

The fact is that prior to Megrahi's release a prisoner exchange scheme was being negotiated (fact !) and the ONLY Libyan prisoner in the UK is Megrahi (so who do you think would benefit from this exchange?)

The USA is on record as saying they didn't like the idea and that a compassionate release would be preferable. He presto ! Megrahi suddenly develops an "illness" and gets a compassionate release.

The UK gov can wipe its hands and says its all down to the Scots - not us !

And the UK gets its oil deal too !


Do you think his illness is fake then?
 
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#61118
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Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 8 Months ago  
angel wrote:
Do you think his illness is fake then?

I think it is very, very convenient !

And, as the prognosis (3 months to live) was clearly wrong, it makes you wonder, doesn't it?
 
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#61144
Marcus

Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 8 Months ago  
There's one big problem I have with all this; I've looked at the facts (NOT theories) surrounding this case, and the evidence against this man is ENTIRELY underwhelming.
 
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#61156
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Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 8 Months ago  
Marcus wrote:
There's one big problem I have with all this; I've looked at the facts (NOT theories) surrounding this case, and the evidence against this man is ENTIRELY underwhelming.

Indeed, Marcus ... it is highly unlikely that Megrahi is actually guilty.

That gives ITK a bit of a problem ... not sure whether I am on his side (as an innocent framed) or against him (as he's been used as a pawn in a game that rewards big buisiness and the oil merchants).

One thing is for certain ... those who lost family and friends on Pan Am 103 have been sacrificed.
 
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#61179
Angel

Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 8 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
angel wrote:
Do you think his illness is fake then?

I think it is very, very convenient !

And, as the prognosis (3 months to live) was clearly wrong, it makes you wonder, doesn't it?


You can never be 100 percent accurate on how an individual will stay alive after diagnosis. Ask Ronnie Biggs.
 
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#61180
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Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 8 Months ago  
Angel wrote:
You can never be 100 percent accurate on how an individual will stay alive after diagnosis. Ask Ronnie Biggs.

According to the Labour Party, angel, the average length of time for someone to live is 19.2 months after chemotherapy has commenced.

Megrahi had not even begun chemotherapy !

Where did this "three months" come from, angel ?

And why are the Scots government so unwilling to say ?

<<< Suspicions are growing about the medical evidence used to justify the release of the man convicted of the Lockerbie bombing. Investigation by Paul Hutcheon and Tom Gordon

JUSTICE secretary Kenny MacAskill is under further pressure over his decision to free the Lockerbie bomber after cancer experts questioned whether Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al Megrahi has less than three months to live. Megrahi, released from prison by the SNP government on compassionate grounds, told the Sunday Herald that he was about to undergo a course of chemotherapy, which could prolong his life even longer.

The three-month prognosis is now under greater scrutiny after two of the UK's most senior prostate specialists said the Libyan could live for another year. David Neal, professor of surgical oncology at Addenbrooke's Hospital, Cambridge, said: "For somebody with just generally hormonally-lapsed prostate cancer with metastases, the time-scales are usually 12 to 18 months."

Professor Roger Kirby - chairman of the charity Prostate UK, founder of the Urology Foundation and director of The Prostate Centre - said MacAskill could have "egg on his face" after accepting that Megrahi's terminal cancer left him just three months to live.

The comments pile pressure on MacAskill to justify his decision ahead of Wednesday's parliamentary debate on the release of the only man ever convicted of killing 270 people in the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie in 1988. >>> from Herald Scotland (even the Scottish newspapers don't believe a word of it, angel !!!!)

www.heraldscotland.com/megrahi-how-long-...-really-got-1.826329
 
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#61376
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Re:Al Megrahi controvery 13 Years, 8 Months ago  
It's a year ago today that Al Megragi was released.
 
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