I was invited to attend but editing and weather prevented me.
On the uselessness of the CCRC (Criminal Case Review Commission) - meant to expose and correct miscarriages of justice but, I think, in thrall to the Government which pays the wages and does not want too many high profile appeal successes.

My wrongful conviction was discussed at length; as was the disgraceful case of Susan May (Google her).

The Susan May case ( I had never heard of it ) is mind blowing.

Just goes to show how Trials are basically not done properly and Lawyers and the CPS/POLICE do not care about the truth at all.

It is all about the money and to be "seen" to be doing it in the "right way" even if that means burying the evidence so that a Fair Trial is impossible.

I was told by a Senior Inspector in the Met Police that anyone who thinks that being innocent will get them a fair trial will find themselves in Prison. He told me that the system is such that if you dont fight every inch of the way you will find yourself in prison with only an appeal to look forward to after the main damage has been done. He said he had seen loads of innocent people jailed - and remember this was a Senior Policeman - a really lovely decent man who like me and many of you had had enough of what he was seeing on a daily basis from our Justice System.

There are many good people in the system - but the system itself is broken and favours the criminal.

When an innocent person is locked up or even put on trial - that means the resources to catch REAL criminals are diverted.

For every Miscarriage of Justice perhaps 100 criminals get "let off" by the system. Then we wonder why crime stats are so massive in a civilised society and why we keep having to build more and more jails.

These prosecutions by stealth and by "taking advantage" of mainly middle class people who have had instilled into them the mantra of the "fantastic UK justice system etc etc la di da" are common these days because real criminals go on the run abroad and basically could not care less about the law or jail or anything - hence the fact they are involved in crime. Those in the middle are not rehabilitated because no one takes the time to even talk to them about how they feel and why they are offending.

The system is a revolving door for many - and a closed door for the middle classes who rely on legal aid and a misplaced belief in the system.

Susan May would not have ended up in Prison if she had been a criminal. Her crime was to trust the system that should have protected her and gone after the real killer. But that would have taken loads of work and they may have not "got their man" - and clear up rates would have been compromised - in addition loads of experts had a wonderful payday in court ( experts !!! LOL )

If the CPS needs experts you can guarantee the evidence is weak because they need someone to provide smoke and mirrors ( Sion Jenkins case for example )

JK2006 wrote:
I was invited to attend but editing and weather prevented me.
On the uselessness of the CCRC (Criminal Case Review Commission) - meant to expose and correct miscarriages of justice but, I think, in thrall to the Government which pays the wages and does not want too many high profile appeal successes.

My wrongful conviction was discussed at length; as was the disgraceful case of Susan May (Google her).

I did read yesterday that the Jeremy Bamber case is due for review again soon. Some of the evidence that has emerged recently is amazing (how can someone murdered 6 hours earlier, according to the Police, still have fresh blood running from wounds?).

Very good point.

The DAVID KELLY "murder" also has so many unanswered questions.

I have come to the conclusion that we are not told the truth about anything - the WIKILEAKS affair confirms that.

We are treated as slaves to the world economic system and basically lied to on a daily basis. The Truth is whatever the "Ministry of Truth" says it is. Evidence opposing the official line is "rubbished" and anyone seeking truth about serious issues is either locked up or mysteriously dies in a small plane crash.......

We are in a World Police State. Those countries who will not comply ( Iran - N Korea etc ) are called rogues and will be erased unless they embrace the Mantra of the USA and their followers. As BUSH said - if you do not back the USA you are a terrorist.....

steveimp wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
I was invited to attend but editing and weather prevented me.
On the uselessness of the CCRC (Criminal Case Review Commission) - meant to expose and correct miscarriages of justice but, I think, in thrall to the Government which pays the wages and does not want too many high profile appeal successes.

My wrongful conviction was discussed at length; as was the disgraceful case of Susan May (Google her).

I did read yesterday that the Jeremy Bamber case is due for review again soon. Some of the evidence that has emerged recently is amazing (how can someone murdered 6 hours earlier, according to the Police, still have fresh blood running from wounds?).

steveimp- I am an example of someone whose views were molded by the media in the Bamber case. I believed every horrific detail published right back then.

Now after reading everything in review it's clear to me a great injustice has been done.

veritas wrote:
steveimp wrote:
JK2006 wrote:
I was invited to attend but editing and weather prevented me.
On the uselessness of the CCRC (Criminal Case Review Commission) - meant to expose and correct miscarriages of justice but, I think, in thrall to the Government which pays the wages and does not want too many high profile appeal successes.

My wrongful conviction was discussed at length; as was the disgraceful case of Susan May (Google her).

I did read yesterday that the Jeremy Bamber case is due for review again soon. Some of the evidence that has emerged recently is amazing (how can someone murdered 6 hours earlier, according to the Police, still have fresh blood running from wounds?).

steveimp- I am an example of someone whose views were molded by the media in the Bamber case. I believed every horrific detail published right back then.

Now after reading everything in review it's clear to me a great injustice has been done.

One of the things that I remembered from university that has stayed with me all this time is about critical reasoning. Since then I haven't believed anything that the media comes out with because there is always an 'agenda' attached, be it from the left or right dichotomies.

The Police will do anything to get a 'body' (pardon the pun). The fact that the 'body' hasn't done it doesn't really matter to them, but it's another big tick. Come ten or so years later and the public find out that an injustice has been done, well the Police involved in it are either well promoted or retired and no one will prosecute them. The Stefan Kiszko case was one in particular where there should have been criminal convictions of the officers involved should have been prosecuted.

I quote Anthony Beaumont-Dark, a Conservative MP who said, "This must be the worst miscarriage of justice of all time". Kiszko could not produce sperm, therefore the evidence of semen at the site of the murder of a poor girl could not have been his at all.

But no, again the Police are protected by a system that allows them to be corrupt and keeps them corrupt.

Sorry for the rant, but the unfairness of our society gets on my bristols.

I remember reading about the Kiszko case and being absolutely appalled. The police involved in that case were either a) maliciously trying to convict an innocent man or b) so horrendously incompetent that they failed to check glaringly obvious lines of enquiry. Whichever it is, it's simply not good enough.

The Jeremy Bamber case was a new one to me, so I read up on it. Once again, it looks like a case of the police trying to nail someone (anyone) and contriving, fabricating and falsifying a case. And let's not forget hiding or ignoring inconvenient evidence. To me, there seems to have been nowhere near enough evidence to convict this man, or even charge him. Furthermore, the scenario of his poor mentally ill sister being the killer is much more compelling and crucially, better supported by the evidence.

Apart from the principles of justice, law and good practice, there is a personal and human dimension in these cases. My heart goes out to these poor victims for what they have been through both at the hands of fate/misfortune and the state.