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the Presidential candidate ....his Israeli boyfriend ... and the raped Palestinian boy
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#72614
In The Know

the Presidential candidate ....his Israeli boyfriend ... and the raped Palestinian boy 12 Years, 9 Months ago  
 
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#72615
Re:the Presidential candidate ....his Israeli boyfriend ... and the raped Palestinian boy 12 Years, 9 Months ago  
Homophobic paper has to find other reasons... like most homophobes.
 
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#72617
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Re:the Presidential candidate ....his Israeli boyfriend ... and the raped Palestinian boy 12 Years, 9 Months ago  
You cannot dismiss the truth JK just because your least favourite newspaper reports it (as has almost every other news source !)

I first was alerted to this story on BBC CeeFax yesterday.

The man - who can make such a critical error of judgement - is clearly unfit to be a leader.

www.independent.ie/breaking-news/nationa...by-love-2837625.html
 
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#72618
veritas

Re:the Presidential candidate ....his Israeli boyfriend ... and the raped Palestinian boy 12 Years, 9 Months ago  
JK2006 wrote:
Homophobic paper has to find other reasons... like most homophobes.
someone has to fill the void left by NoTW

many quoted in the DM are demonstrating ignorance. It's clear his letters to the court were normal character references. It would be abnormal for such a reference to comment on the crime except the usual 'out of character' stuff etc.

It's a homophobic smear campaign.
 
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#72628
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Re:the Presidential candidate ....his Israeli boyfriend ... and the raped Palestinian boy 12 Years, 9 Months ago  
veritas wrote:
It's a homophobic smear campaign.

He's been less than candid about WHEN their relationshop ended (giving at least 3 different time spans).

He's clearly shifting the goal-posts and obviously cannot be trusted - nothing whatever to do with homophobia - just to do with someone who tells lies when it suits him (he's now withdrawn from the campaign, btw)
 
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#72631
veritas

Re:the Presidential candidate ....his Israeli boyfriend ... and the raped Palestinian boy 12 Years, 9 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
veritas wrote:
It's a homophobic smear campaign.

He's been less than candid about WHEN their relationshop ended (giving at least 3 different time spans).

He's clearly shifting the goal-posts and obviously cannot be trusted - nothing whatever to do with homophobia - just to do with someone who tells lies when it suits him (he's now withdrawn from the campaign, btw)


providing you believe everything you read in the media

I don't see what his previous private life has to do with him being president and he sounds delightfully eccentric in true Irish fashion.
 
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#72632
TED

Re:the Presidential candidate ....his Israeli boyfriend ... and the raped Palestinian boy 12 Years, 9 Months ago  
He was 15 and it was "statutory." If you ask me 15 is old enough. Some places have AOC's lower than 15. We like to treat teens as little kids especially when it comes to sex (but have no problem charging them as adults when they commit crimes.) I don't see what the big deal is.
 
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#72633
TED

Re:the Presidential candidate ....his Israeli boyfriend ... and the raped Palestinian boy 12 Years, 9 Months ago  
Whenever I hear about statutory rape of a fifteen year old, I'm reminded of a quote from one of my all time favorite books/films One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest where McMurphy was talking to the psychiatrist at the ward.

He says, "She was fifteen years old, going on thirty-five, Doc, and she told me she was eighteen, she was very willing, I practically had to take to sewing my pants shut. Between you and me, uh, she might have been fifteen, but when you get that little red beaver right up there in front of you, I don't think it's crazy at all and I don't think you do either. No man alive could resist that, and that's why I got into jail to begin with. And now they're telling me I'm crazy over here because I don't sit there like a goddamn vegetable. Don't make a bit of sense to me. If that's what being crazy is, then I'm senseless, out of it, gone-down-the-road, wacko. But no more, no less, that's it."

Great literature. Mcmurphy was the ultimate good guy of all time.
 
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#72634
veritas

Re:the Presidential candidate ....his Israeli boyfriend ... and the raped Palestinian boy 12 Years, 9 Months ago  
the age of consent in Israel is 14-16..not sure of the details.

'statuatory rape' is one of those charges where cohersion or force wasn't used and it may have been consensual but the law was broken.

The so-called 'child protection' brigade have jumped on the band wagon without obviously knowing the details along with political rivals.

It reminds me of a big case in Oz a few years ago when the chief prosecutor was done for child porn and around 40 barristers, lawyers. police and uni professors (including a good friend of mine) gave character references to the court and News Int tabloids went haywire... basically accusing them of being 'pedo lovers' etc.

They all got about $50K in damages each. They better be a bit careful in Ireland..libel laws are much stronger.
 
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#72665
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Re:the Presidential candidate ....his Israeli boyfriend ... and the raped Palestinian boy 12 Years, 8 Months ago  
veritas wrote:
I don't see what his previous private life has to do with him being president

Once a liar ...always a liar, maybe ?
 
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GemimiUK

Re:the Presidential candidate ....his Israeli boyfriend ... and the raped Palestinian boy 12 Years, 8 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
veritas wrote:
I don't see what his previous private life has to do with him being president

Once a liar ...always a liar, maybe ?


Bit like cameroon's petrol price adjuster
 
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#72674
veritas

Re:the Presidential candidate ....his Israeli boyfriend ... and the raped Palestinian boy 12 Years, 8 Months ago  
In The Know wrote:
veritas wrote:
I don't see what his previous private life has to do with him being president

Once a liar ...always a liar, maybe ?


to the contrary. There seems to be some bizarre belief perpetuated by the media..and apparently believed by the general public..that the world is entitled to know every private detail in a person's life.

Andy Warhol and Bob Dylan (when he once gave interviews) always gave completely made up answers to media questions so that it was almost impossible to rely on newspaper cuttings files for facts.

I guess this presidential candidate is an old lefty if you don't like him

(ps In The Know- that bastion of capitalism that has surged so far to the right in the last 30 years that the middle class has been wiped out, seems to becoming undone at the seams )
 
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