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TOPIC: Brit Awards 2022
#218292
Brit Awards 2022 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I invented the BRITS - in 1987 I presented them and came up with the acronym BRITS standing for British Record Industry Trusts Show.
I then took over as writer and producer after the fiasco of 1989 (Sam Fox and Mick Fleetwood) for the 1990, 1991 and 1992 shows.
My involvement in the music industry came to an abrupt end in 2000, when Surrey Police launched their Miscarriage of Justice against me, in company with Max Clifford. At that point I had agreed to become Global Chairman of EMI Records (and it would have remained a British corporation to this day, had I run it as planned for the next couple of decades).
I think the entire Music Industry would now be in a far better place had that happened.
So we shall watch The Brit Awards tonight and I fear...
Very few viewers will bother. And those that do will dislike much of the music featured as, this decade, there are very few mass appeal hits.
Specialist sounds, aimed at tiny audiences, have taken over because there remain very few executives in music capable of hearing, finding, making or promoting mass appeal sounds.
I tended to do that - my final two hits in 1999 were Who Let The Dogs Out and I Get Knocked Down - both sold around 16 million copies.
And I well remember - virtually nobody agreed with me (and The Tip Sheet) that those were hits.
There's nothing wrong with rap, garage, country, folk, pop, metal, rock.
But those specialist areas need to include crossover hits that appeal to far more than the target audience.
Today's executives cannot hear those sounds. So there are fewer and fewer Ed Sheeran or Adeles.
No "stars" (see how many faces you recognise tonight).
Sad. But, because of my arrest and wrongful conviction, inevitable.
Plus all my generation are now dead or almost dead.
We made great music in the 60's and 70's.
These days, most of today's music escapes us. Plus we're all virtually deaf.
We hand it over to members of the next generation. Who have really messed it up.
16 million copies? Today you can get to No1 with 16 copies (and a few million "streams").
 
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#218299
Re:Brit Awards 2022 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I remember when I hosted the show in 1987 I wore different coloured bow ties and cummerbunds with my suit for each link. Got loads of sartorial comments.
 
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#218301
Re:Brit Awards 2022 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I rather like the host; brimming with enthusiasm even if it is a bit Evangalestic.
 
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#218303
Re:Brit Awards 2022 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Was the blonde bint meant to fall over walking down three steps? I thought it was only President Gerald Ford who couldn't walk and chew gum at the same time.
 
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#218307
Green Man

Re:Brit Awards 2022 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
JK2006 wrote:
I invented the BRITS - in 1987 I presented them and came up with the acronym BRITS standing for British Record Industry Trusts Show.
I then took over as writer and producer after the fiasco of 1989 (Sam Fox and Mick Fleetwood) for the 1990, 1991 and 1992 shows.
My involvement in the music industry came to an abrupt end in 2000, when Surrey Police launched their Miscarriage of Justice against me, in company with Max Clifford. At that point I had agreed to become Global Chairman of EMI Records (and it would have remained a British corporation to this day, had I run it as planned for the next couple of decades).
I think the entire Music Industry would now be in a far better place had that happened.
So we shall watch The Brit Awards tonight and I fear...
Very few viewers will bother. And those that do will dislike much of the music featured as, this decade, there are very few mass appeal hits.
Specialist sounds, aimed at tiny audiences, have taken over because there remain very few executives in music capable of hearing, finding, making or promoting mass appeal sounds.
I tended to do that - my final two hits in 1999 were Who Let The Dogs Out and I Get Knocked Down - both sold around 16 million copies.
And I well remember - virtually nobody agreed with me (and The Tip Sheet) that those were hits.
There's nothing wrong with rap, garage, country, folk, pop, metal, rock.
But those specialist areas need to include crossover hits that appeal to far more than the target audience.
Today's executives cannot hear those sounds. So there are fewer and fewer Ed Sheeran or Adeles.
No "stars" (see how many faces you recognise tonight).
Sad. But, because of my arrest and wrongful conviction, inevitable.
Plus all my generation are now dead or almost dead.
We made great music in the 60's and 70's.
These days, most of today's music escapes us. Plus we're all virtually deaf.
We hand it over to members of the next generation. Who have really messed it up.
16 million copies? Today you can get to No1 with 16 copies (and a few million "streams").


Kerrang Awards is a poser award show, metal is not like it was in the 80's.

Rap is covered by the Mojo and MOBO Awards.

NME Awards is trash and it seems more like a payola awards show same with Emmies and Grammy.


In shops or resturants I go to, I hear some modern music but then it's taken over by 80's pop or 70's disco. I have no issues with new music but I like it to be promoted better.

HMV need to bring back the listening booths, I still hear classic rock blasted out in their stores in which I have heard hundred times over.

Theatre's are slowly re-opening with some classic bands however the theatre's are full of tribute bands (yuck) these are only good pubs, parties or charity events. Not for the city or town centre theatres but for the pubs yes !

Nearly headliners stick to festivals or arena tours these days. I missed the Genesis tour because I didn't want to travel and turn up to postponed even. There was so much uncertainty in the last 2 years, it was not worth travelling and paying hotels fees. I have tons of credit for the gigs that are cancelled but I am out of pocket, what if there is nothing worth booking for me this year or next ?
 
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#218311
MCR

Re:Brit Awards 2022 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
What a complete load of trash, i agree it's not mass appeal anymore.
I've never understood that "Grime" trash at all not music just noise.
And that "Dave" bloke was the highlight.

What happened to the lifetime achievement award where they would have a really
big name to close the show?

And that's how they closed it!

It would have made more sense for Adele to close it than Dave.
 
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#218319
Re:Brit Awards 2022 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I didn't hear a single "real" hit in the whole show. Ed Sheeran and Adele came closest but only because their songs sounded like photocopies of their earlier real hits. Ditto Weeknd. Liam has never been anywhere near a hit unless Noel wrote it (Don't Look Back). Nothing sells anymore (streaming earns 1p per million streams). I did like the host (for the first time in ages). Pity he didn't have a better script. If BBC4 got bigger ratings with Yes Prime Minister I wouldn't be surprised. As it was I bet the brilliant doctor show on BBC1 cleaned up with twice as many viewers as the dying Brits. The sad thing is - nobody cares. Music executives are useless because no decent company cares about music which used to be a goldmine and is now a sewer.

On a different matter, I bet Adele only won 3 Awards because it was part of her contract. And doesn't she look and sound dreadful these days? Instead of the hugely talented, natural teenager she's become an Essex babe converted into a Hollywood star. My Fair Girl has become My Sad Lady.
 
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#218322
Green Man

Re:Brit Awards 2022 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
JK2006 wrote:
I didn't hear a single "real" hit in the whole show. Ed Sheeran and Adele came closest but only because their songs sounded like photocopies of their earlier real hits. Ditto Weeknd. Liam has never been anywhere near a hit unless Noel wrote it (Don't Look Back). Nothing sells anymore (streaming earns 1p per million streams). I did like the host (for the first time in ages). Pity he didn't have a better script. If BBC4 got bigger ratings with Yes Prime Minister I wouldn't be surprised. As it was I bet the brilliant doctor show on BBC1 cleaned up with twice as many viewers as the dying Brits. The sad thing is - nobody cares. Music executives are useless because no decent company cares about music which used to be a goldmine and is now a sewer.

On a different matter, I bet Adele only won 3 Awards because it was part of her contract. And doesn't she look and sound dreadful these days? Instead of the hugely talented, natural teenager she's become an Essex babe converted into a Hollywood star. My Fair Girl has become My Sad Lady.


I bet Adele, was very shushy about her Las Vegas debacle. I saw the Stranglers live (few times) at one tour Hugh Cornwell, was performing with a bad cold, he made up for it the following year.

If the Brits gave Lifetime Achievement Award to Genesis for their last tour it would of been something. Yet new singers don't like legends unless their profit to them and their record label. Or the lastest grime singer can sample something from them.

Elton John has been awful for years
 
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#218352
Re:Brit Awards 2022 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Lowest ratings ever. 2.7 million. Appalling. Anyone surprised?

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-10...million-viewers.html
 
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#218354
Green Man

Re:Brit Awards 2022 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
I am amazed it got more than 2 million to be honest with you JK.
 
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#218542
Honey

Re:Brit Awards 2022 3 Months, 1 Week ago  
I didn't bother watching this year. I couldn't face any more of Adele's droning.
 
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#218555
Rick

Re:Brit Awards 2022 3 Months, 1 Week ago  
TV people keep blocking out the reality that awards shows are basically very, very, boring unless you REALLY care about the people involved.The problem with the BRITS now is that far fewer people in the broad viewing audience care about the music (as an experiment - if you're not in the music biz yourself - ask people you meet today if they follow the charts. Personally I doubt I'd find one who does), and so you're left with a couple of hours of many viewers saying 'Who's THAT?' about once every couple of minutes. So unless you just reschedule it for a very specific demographic viewing group, you're heavily reliant on accidents and controvrsies to make it watchable. Maybe ITV should merge it with I'm a Celebrity, and make the nominees eat grubs and crawl through rat-infested tunnels to win the gongs.
 
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#218577
Green Man

Re:Brit Awards 2022 3 Months, 1 Week ago  
Honey wrote:
I didn't bother watching this year. I couldn't face any more of Adele's droning.

Adele won Artist of the year. I have no idea why she don't do tours. However she sells tacky merchandise to fans in a Las Vegas venue lobby.
 
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