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TOPIC: Gary Glitter
#1272
David

Gary Glitter 14 Years, 8 Months ago  
Gary Glitter has been convicted of sex offences with children and is sentenced to three years in prison.
Another set up by the british press?
Good luck Gary.
 
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#1294
Al

Re:Gary Glitter 14 Years, 8 Months ago  
I've no idea whether Gary Glitter is guilty or innocent of molestation, but I can only hope he was given a fair trial. He has been hounded by the British gutter press for many years, and we know that they are not above 'sponsoring' allegations.

I can still dig his music. Recent events don't change that.
 
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#1330
They referred to him as a previously convicted paedophile.Does this mean someone looking at an image is guilty of the crime? 14 Years, 8 Months ago  
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#1332
Re:Gary Glitter 14 Years, 8 Months ago  
I don't know whether he is guilty or not, but hearing the verdict on sky news, it said that the victims recognised Gary's bathroom and bedroom. To me that is not concrete evidence that they were abused.
 
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#1356
In The Dark

mikemacca, apparently in 1999, Gary was found to have downloaded related material and was a member of various sites. ... 14 Years, 8 Months ago  
Such people create the demand for these images, and the children become the victims.
 
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#1360
my point was does someone looking at pictures of a crime actually make them guilty of the crime ? He was never convicted of actually touching anyone 14 Years, 8 Months ago  
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#1372
In The Dark

mikemacca the actual crime is of perpetuating the child sex industry by being a consumer of it. You don't need to 'touch' anyone. Gary had 14 Years, 8 Months ago  
found and downloaded illegal images on his PC.


If you were found to have illegal child images on your hard-drive, try telling police that you've seen them but you haven't 'touched' any kids yet !


Even if you were to merely buy a bootleg Harry Potter DVD from a bloke in the pub, you have committed a crime !
 
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#1374
If you handle stolen goods, you're not charged with the theft, but you're charged with "handling".You don't become a convicted burglar 14 Years, 8 Months ago  
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#1418
Chris

Re:Gary Glitter 14 Years, 8 Months ago  
It is hard to understand what is going on, his silence and behaviour hasn't exactly done him any favours has it? However, the whole business does have the hallmarks of a tabloid witch-hunt though, I mean how cheap and easy would it be to "buy" those girls to make allegations, let's face it "V for Vile", who is going to be bothered whether they're true or false? I watched the show "Come Home Gary Glitter?" last night wondering if it would put forward a balanced view but it did not.... 2 things that disturb me most about this do not really involve the man himself and what he has done, but the media's reaction to it.
Firstly, there appears to be a complete lack of people coming forward to say what a vile pervert he is, really if he was such a monster I'm sure his reputation would be legendary. Where are his relatives, ex's, staff, former friends etc??? For such a notorious man, there seems to be nothing out there about him.
Secondly, I find the white-washing of him out of history quite chilling, there is no need to write someone out of the equation just because they looked at some distasteful picture. My own personal opinion of his work is that he produced a run of 6 consecutive great singles that stand up to anything else produced in the glam-rock era (Rock & Roll thru to I Love YOu LOve Me Love) and most therafter was shoddy re-makes (Oh Yes You're Beautiful anybody?), but for someone who had 11 era-defining consecutive top ten hits including 3 numbers ones, to whitewash them out of history (and I doubt very much whether we'd even have the 73 & 74 Rock'n'Roll Years shown now) is terribly Orwellian. He was a washed-up has-been 30 years ago, but that doesn't make that initial run of hits any less great (the drums and guitar sounds are stone-cold magic). In fact, this I find so appalling it tempts me to defend whether he's guilty or not.

Lastly though, I think the tabloid press have demonised him, prevented him from seeking help and making attempts to understand the appeal of "child porn" (we know not what level of filth he had though), and really all he's guilty of seems to be a slighty pervy lust for young ladies (not text-book children), something which, if people are entirely honest (sadly, these days intellectual honesty is terribly rare), most men feel when they catch sight of a shapely young lolita but keep their desires harnessed. The only "juicy goss" I've heard is that Glitter felt Colleen Nolans botty when she was 15 on TOTP....
 
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#1421
David baker

Re:Gary Glitter 14 Years, 8 Months ago  
Al wrote:
I've no idea whether Gary Glitter is guilty or innocent of molestation, but I can only hope he was given a fair trial. He has been hounded by the British gutter press for many years, and we know that they are not above 'sponsoring' allegations.

I can still dig his music. Recent events don't change that.


I really feel sorry for Gary glitter whether he is guilty or not im not judging him. Thats up to the familys who are accusing him. As far as the british press is concerned they definatly influenced the outcome of the trial.I bet none of these people writing this stuff about him have ever even met him! How do they know what hes like or what hes been up the past few years he hasent even been in the country! If anything im more disgusted with the showbiz staff of the british tabloids than Gary glitter himself i still dig that dudes music
I always got the impression growing up that he was really cool. I cant believe half this crap thats being said him.
 
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#1433
on a lighter side here is his new 2 track CD, 14 Years, 8 Months ago  
I know it's evil but it is free speech after all.

1 Ello Ello Ello we're back again
2 I love you love, you're only 2 love

Two of the Glitter Band wrote Nicki French's eurovision entry in 2000 yet on their introductory clip for the Great British Song Contest, they just said "We've known each other for years and have done a lot of writing together". No mention of Glitter at all.
 
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#1443
Re:Gary Glitter 14 Years, 8 Months ago  
I don't think that he has been written out of history. He was featured on friday nights "King of Glam", al be it breifly and also the recent documentary "Sex and British Pop". That was made before the recent court case though.
 
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#1811
Johnny

Re:on a lighter side here is his new 2 track CD, 14 Years, 7 Months ago  
That happens a lot. When Glitter is mentioned on shows about music nowdays, such as "I Love 1973" there is a quick ten second mention of something like "and also big was Gary Glitter, who had hit's in the 1970's with Leader Of The Gang and Do You Wanna Touch Me". Sometimes he is not mentioned at all. This is a far cry from the days that (before his conviction in 1999) he would get lengthy segments about being one of the "best stars of all time". There is also very little mentioning of him on the offical Glitter Band website (despite the fact that most of their show is still playing HIS hit records, more so than their own music).
 
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#1817
Re:on a lighter side here is his new 2 track CD, 14 Years, 7 Months ago  
I feel sorry for Mike Leander, who co-wrote many of those hits and now must be suffering much loss of royalties and exposure, due to the convictions of his ex-writing partner.

Still I bet he's not doing too badly. I personally feel that if he is guilty he should serve his time and then once he is out, he should be allowed to have a clean slate and move on. It's not surprising that many sex offenders go on to re-offend because they are so
ostracized from society when they come out they don't have any chance of a normal life.
 
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#1818
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Re:Gary Glitter 14 Years, 7 Months ago  
oooooooooooooooh you cant say that, anyone would think
you didnt like the press. We have the best press in the
world, and The Sun stands out as a gleaming example
of what newspapers shouild be.
As of his music, well The Sun says no one likes his music so l would advise getting your hearing checked!
 
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#1819
Mike Leander died many years ago and was actually totally responsible for the early hits (nm) 14 Years, 7 Months ago  
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#1838
Godiver

Re:If you handle stolen goods, you're not charged with the theft, but you're charged with "handling".You don't become a convicted burglar 14 Years, 7 Months ago  
You are joking right?

You seriously believe that looking at pictures of children being sexually abused is ok?
 
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#1852
Johnny

Re:Mike Leander died many years ago and was actually totally responsible for the early hits (nm) 14 Years, 7 Months ago  
I have seen a lot of people say that Mike Leander was the one who was the big gun on the early gitter hits, but always had my doubts, i mean Mike wrote a lot of songs for Gary in the 1960s, but none were hit's, until Gary started co-wrigthing the songs with him. Neither did he find another act near the stature of Gary Glitter (the closest he came was with the backing groups own chart records). I mean, I don't know who did what exactly, I wasn't there when songs such as "Leader Of The Gang" or "Hello, Hello, I'm Back Again" were written and recorded, but personally I suspect both men made great input into the music.
 
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